Comments for Snargleplexon http://www.snargleplexon.com Using humor, compassion, science and ethics to advocate peace and the abolition of all animal exploitation. Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:28:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Comic: Pushy Vegans by F12 http://www.snargleplexon.com/2012/01/22/comic-pushy-vegans/comment-page-1/#comment-1629 F12 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 18:28:17 +0000 http://www.snargleplexon.com/?p=610#comment-1629 True story, carnists can be so fanatical and annoying - it's like a religion. True story, carnists can be so fanatical and annoying – it’s like a religion.

]]> Comment on Comic: Pushy Vegans by Andrea - Butterflyist http://www.snargleplexon.com/2012/01/22/comic-pushy-vegans/comment-page-1/#comment-1627 Andrea - Butterflyist Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:32:07 +0000 http://www.snargleplexon.com/?p=610#comment-1627 This is really funny, and so true. I haven't experienced it yet as a vegan, since I really only fully committed to veganism last week. But as a vegetarian previously I certainly had a lot of meat-eaters questioning my dietary choices. I can only begin to imagine the ride ahead as vegan! Strange though how people think you can be a vegetarian/vegan and still eat chicken? This is really funny, and so true. I haven’t experienced it yet as a vegan, since I really only fully committed to veganism last week. But as a vegetarian previously I certainly had a lot of meat-eaters questioning my dietary choices. I can only begin to imagine the ride ahead as vegan! Strange though how people think you can be a vegetarian/vegan and still eat chicken?

]]> Comment on Welfarism is Speciesist by Rachael http://www.snargleplexon.com/2010/07/16/welfarism/comment-page-1/#comment-1601 Rachael Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:52:06 +0000 http://www.snargleplexon.com/?p=195#comment-1601 I think a lot of people don't realise how cheap meat is these days compared to in the past. And how that is because of factory farming. Meat is ALWAYS going to be more expensive to produce than vegetables, because you don't need to RAISE vegetables, you just GROW them. Animals have more needs, so unless something is going horribly wrong (as it is) meat should always be a luxury. When my grandparents were young, animal products were a luxury. They might have had meat twice a week, and that was a good week. I personally don't think I'd ever eat meat, (I don't see it as my right, but I'm not a welfarist) even if the world was fixed tomorrow, but I don't have a problem with people raising and caring for their own animals and consuming them. I think we'd all do just fine on vegan diets, but if people really are set on eating meat, then they have to realise they would have to eat it a quarter as often (at LEAST)if we were to produce all animal products ethically because if it's not a luxury, then its being produced cheaply, and that ALWAYS means bad treatment for the animals. I think a lot of people don’t realise how cheap meat is these days compared to in the past. And how that is because of factory farming.

Meat is ALWAYS going to be more expensive to produce than vegetables, because you don’t need to RAISE vegetables, you just GROW them. Animals have more needs, so unless something is going horribly wrong (as it is) meat should always be a luxury. When my grandparents were young, animal products were a luxury. They might have had meat twice a week, and that was a good week.

I personally don’t think I’d ever eat meat, (I don’t see it as my right, but I’m not a welfarist) even if the world was fixed tomorrow, but I don’t have a problem with people raising and caring for their own animals and consuming them. I think we’d all do just fine on vegan diets, but if people really are set on eating meat, then they have to realise they would have to eat it a quarter as often (at LEAST)if we were to produce all animal products ethically because if it’s not a luxury, then its being produced cheaply, and that ALWAYS means bad treatment for the animals.

]]> Comment on We Are Omnivores by Rachael http://www.snargleplexon.com/2010/09/29/we-are-omnivores/comment-page-1/#comment-1600 Rachael Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:35:46 +0000 http://www.snargleplexon.com/?p=272#comment-1600 I totally agree with all of this. I also happen to think though that even if in an ideal world, we could rear animals to have happy, pain free lives and eating meat would be better for us than refraining from it, it still doesn't change the fact that in our world right now eating the meat produced by factory farms has to, HAS TO be far more harmful than refraining from it. I don't care if it IS some magical super-protein enriched food, all the chemicals and foeces it encounters is surely enough to cancel any of the benefits out. And for the sake of argument, if it turned out that eating well reared, non chemically enhanced meat as an omnivore turned out to be healthier than being vegan, that wouldn't make me an omnivore. Because I'd rather be slightly unhealthier, and not support the torture and death of millions of animals. (And recent studies have indicated vegans are generally healthier anyways). THATS why the "its natural" argument annoys me. So what if its natural? Sorry I realise I just ranted incoherently, but you know what its like. Good article (y) I totally agree with all of this. I also happen to think though that even if in an ideal world, we could rear animals to have happy, pain free lives and eating meat would be better for us than refraining from it, it still doesn’t change the fact that in our world right now eating the meat produced by factory farms has to, HAS TO be far more harmful than refraining from it.
I don’t care if it IS some magical super-protein enriched food, all the chemicals and foeces it encounters is surely enough to cancel any of the benefits out. And for the sake of argument, if it turned out that eating well reared, non chemically enhanced meat as an omnivore turned out to be healthier than being vegan, that wouldn’t make me an omnivore. Because I’d rather be slightly unhealthier, and not support the torture and death of millions of animals. (And recent studies have indicated vegans are generally healthier anyways).

THATS why the “its natural” argument annoys me. So what if its natural?

Sorry I realise I just ranted incoherently, but you know what its like. Good article (y)

]]> Comment on Vegan Quinoa Lentil Burgers by Wilton http://www.snargleplexon.com/2012/01/03/vegan-quinoa-lentil-burgers/comment-page-1/#comment-1584 Wilton Sat, 07 Jan 2012 22:40:03 +0000 http://www.snargleplexon.com/?p=599#comment-1584 You should mention pre-washing the quinoa grains to remove the saponin. You should mention pre-washing the quinoa grains to remove the saponin.

]]> Comment on Vegan Quinoa Lentil Burgers by QT http://www.snargleplexon.com/2012/01/03/vegan-quinoa-lentil-burgers/comment-page-1/#comment-1579 QT Sat, 07 Jan 2012 06:59:12 +0000 http://www.snargleplexon.com/?p=599#comment-1579 Oh man, these were REALLLY good. I wound up eating several by myself. This was perhaps not such a good idea. Oof. Oh man, these were REALLLY good. I wound up eating several by myself. This was perhaps not such a good idea. Oof.

]]> Comment on Vegan Quinoa Lentil Burgers by QT http://www.snargleplexon.com/2012/01/03/vegan-quinoa-lentil-burgers/comment-page-1/#comment-1567 QT Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:41:02 +0000 http://www.snargleplexon.com/?p=599#comment-1567 How many burgers does this recipe provide? How many burgers does this recipe provide?

]]> Comment on Vegan Quinoa Lentil Burgers by QT http://www.snargleplexon.com/2012/01/03/vegan-quinoa-lentil-burgers/comment-page-1/#comment-1566 QT Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:40:41 +0000 http://www.snargleplexon.com/?p=599#comment-1566 Wow, this sounds great. I think I now have dinner plans for this weekend. Wow, this sounds great. I think I now have dinner plans for this weekend.

]]> Comment on Battlestar Galactica S2:E5, “The Farm” by Bea Elliott http://www.snargleplexon.com/2011/12/28/bsg-the-farm/comment-page-1/#comment-1554 Bea Elliott Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:06:49 +0000 http://www.snargleplexon.com/?p=595#comment-1554 Does art imitate life or life imitate art? A chilling thought. This BG episode reminds me of this short video: Industrial Slaughter http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LdB-uYuCxlI Does art imitate life or life imitate art? A chilling thought.

This BG episode reminds me of this short video: Industrial Slaughter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LdB-uYuCxlI

]]> Comment on Top Ten Lies I Hear by Mari http://www.snargleplexon.com/2011/10/07/top-ten-lies-i-hear/comment-page-1/#comment-1550 Mari Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:36:02 +0000 http://www.snargleplexon.com/?p=573#comment-1550 Sharp stuff! Sharp stuff!

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